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have is the man wearing the black hat and a black backpack nineteen year old dzhokhar stars now i have is the man wearing the white hat and a tan backpack police officer shot and killed the older brother early this morning but just got away the events from last night leading into today have been so fluid that the headline is constantly changing so i'm joined now by our team is ana stasi a who is near boston on a saucy i can you break down some of the events from last night well maybe you know last night at around five thirty pm local time the f.b.i. released pictures of the two suspects who now we know are two brothers twenty six year old son naive and nineteen year old just hearts and i and these two brothers basically for after the photos were released ended up getting out of their hiding getting into a seven eleven which they robbed hijacked a car releasing the person to whom that car belonged and got into
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a. car chase with police as a result of which the older brother to middle on was died out of hospital around one thirty five am local time with several gunshots from police he was said to be carrying an i.e.d. on his body and the younger brother nineteen year old john hart is currently on the loose with police trying to locate his whereabouts as we speak and this is certainly what everybody's eyes are on right now the possibility of joe hart being out found any minute any hour in the days to come now in a stuffy i hear a lot of action a commotion going on behind you what is the current situation. well the current situation megan is basically while the authorities are trying to locate a needle in a haystack the entire greater boston area which includes millions of people is on a full complete lockdown as officials go from door to door trying to find this
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nineteen year old suspect in the boston bombings case and certainly this is created quite a commotion and fear in the area people are staying inside their homes businesses are closed homes are closed there's no public transportation available and of course this is done to make it as easy as possible for officials to try to catch to hard make sure he doesn't get away but also for security reasons because there are still concerns as we speak that further devices might be located throughout the area the investigation is currently trying to find out whether possibly any other people might be associated with the two brothers that are now officially the two suspects one on the loose so this is certainly a peek the situation right now while the greater boston area remains at a lockdown officials are trying to do whatever they can to locate this nineteen year old nineteen year old as quickly as possible and on a stasia we are hearing about a third suspect or person of interest the one that's not actually related to the
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sarson brothers what do you know about that. well you know megan this is something that is a very fluid this is reportedly officials are looking into this possibility no official statements when it comes to that have yet been made they are concerned that a third person or more could be associated with the brothers they're trying to find this out as we speak so this is certainly something that has not been officially confirmed as of yet now i want to show you how these events occurred in all over boston the boston area so as you can see here there are a lot of areas that are affected obviously watertown the shoot out itself happened at mit and then of course that was just across the river from where the boston marathon bombing happened can you talk a little bit about how the community is reacting to all of this chaos that is playing out and that has played out over the past few days. well made in the community certainly has been in
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a state of shock ever since the bombings took place on monday for several days there was no knowledge in terms of who the suspects are and the f.b.i. was working around the clock to try to locate the possible suspects as we do know they were eventually tracked down through a surveillance video from a department store and identified as these two brothers that are said to be of chechen origin they are they have been living in the united states since two thousand and three years here they certainly. people who know them in the community who when seeing their faces were completely shocked people they went to school with people they worked with family members even like you mentioned you know the uncle just in complete shock and the community itself is right now really in a in a state of fear because of the lockdown and because of this teenager. teenager could literally be anywhere people are certainly very afraid and waiting to see exactly what happens and hoping that he's located as soon as possible are to correspondent on a stasia charge and a with
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a light as from boston please continue to update us as you find information. well let's continue our comprehensive coverage of this manhunt for these two suspects or for this one suspect numerous family members have come out to talk about the shock and the grief that they feel after finding out that these two men are the ones that the f.b.i. has been searching for all along speaking from russia this morning the father of the two men said quote my son is a true angel joe hart is a second tier medical student in the us he is such an intelligent boy we expected him to come home on the holidays they were set up they were set up i saw it on television and they killed my older son tom our law meanwhile one of the uncles of the two suspects lives right here in montgomery county maryland which is not too far away from the studio this morning he gave an impassioned speech to the reporters clearly upset about the fact that members of his own family were involved in this tragedy are to correspondent liz wahl is in montgomery county with more
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with the massive manhunt underway in boston there are local ties here in montgomery county this is the home of a man by the name of ruthless arnie he claims to be the suspects. he spoke to media a short while and down here is what he had to be losers. settle the. visit the only reason i get to that is that you know this is then used to do with religion with islam it's a really it's a this is just if you have the money. to. give me. and from those who love.
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so a lot of attention now is on. members of. you know that. the big question. asked.
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now before we continue our coverage i want to make it very clear that right now we are only going to report the facts that are coming in and we are not going to speculate about the means or the motives of these two men the fact is that we don't know why these two men did what they did whether or not it was an isolated attack or part of a bigger network we don't know what current connections these men have to the republic of chechnya so we want to be very careful in describing these men now that being said the chaos playing out in boston will undoubtedly have international repercussions for a look at the bigger picture of these events i'm joined now by walid foris he is an advisor to antiterrorism caucus for the u.s. congress why leave a lot of media attention quickly began around this event obviously this morning and last night maybe and calling the suspects on monday and saying that this was an act of terror and after the bombings actually happened at the boston marathon president
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obama on monday though was very hesitant at first to call this such an attack now how do you classify something as a terror attack is it method is it victims is it the perpetrator or is it some combination of these things it is absolutely a combination of all of the things that you have mentioned but primarily would look at the civilian victims first victims in general that is outside the norms of regular conflict and war and that is conducted with extreme violence and collective . punishment versus as a nation for example which is one target but in this case now we are beyond that and you are right to say that president obama was very careful he was advised not to have asked what the facts were going very fast as two bombs have exploded people were killed congress were injured and then more important the perpetrators now the terrorist have engaged in firefight with law enforcement so it has all the hallmarks of
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a team in this case two brothers who have planned this terror. and planned probably another wave but they were you know they were shocked by the fact that pictures were were aired and therefore they fled they clashed with law enforcement one was killed and now we see the end of the drama unfolding in front of our eyes in boston now these men are obviously from eastern europe and their love was born in russia was born in caribbean stand the family live in dagestan in the russian federation for numerous years before reportedly leaving the country around two thousand and one to two thousand and three and seeking asylum in the u.s. to skate some of the violence there now who has the fact that these two men happen to be from eastern europe and not the u.s. added to an international aspect of these attacks they should do is going to international ask for the simple fact that one of them is naturalized actually to work them and they have links outside the united states but the new approach now is it doesn't matter what national if you're coming from i mean if there are chechen
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happen to have russian passports one was born in different republics they have emigrated they came to this person's us citizens what is important here is what are the motives and of motives basically it's not just the action the military action what are their statements who indoctrinated that what we're looking at what now is really the video games that they have posted a few hours ago we had discovered that they have you tube channels it has been now sort of downloaded and there is a study of these you do challenge what was the material posted in the last question is at the end of the day these are not ideologues these are young man who have received this ideology from somewhere who has i'm dr david and when is that question and walid i need to know this as soon as the information came in about these men being of the islamic faith speculations came in about whether they were here doing jihad and whether this was an act of martyrdom how can we be sure that just because these men are muslim that the attacks were possibly
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a motivated by their religion or can we be sure. what if we ask this question if we are in the arab and muslim world getting our current facts in saudi arabia the holiest place of sunni islam there are al qaeda attack in pakistan so that was going to be a long and of course is not the measurement what is measurement are statements made by these individuals or posted by these individuals of commitment not to the religion not to pray five times a day by two an ideology and the ideology mean that separating people between infidels and other establishing the caliphate the usual salafist jihadi approach which is well known in the arab world unfortunately not well you know clarify here in the west in general terms now chechen leader run son codd here also commented that the sus on the suspects earlier today i want you to take a listen to this because we don't know anything about that so now i have brothers they never lived in chechnya the media is reporting that they grew up and went to school in america so the problem is with their job bringing their we regret that
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this deadly tragedy took place as we know better than anybody about these things and we offer our condolences so i leaned on one hand he's offering his condolences but on the other he is blaming the suspects american upbringing for their alleged actions as opposed to their their backgrounds outside of the u.s. what are your thoughts on this there's a lot of chaos out here out there american and breaking basically going to school in america does not create your hardest i wouldn't even say russian i'm bringing out if i have to be very specific the fact that there are chechen or georgian or dagestan used or russian from the greater russian state has nothing to do it's what kind of ideology you were recruited from and that is the question to see what kind of internet resources they had who did they meet and it's not just about those chechens we had an american born anglos we had asians we had african-americans we have now we see in mali in other places and variety of ethnicities and
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a variety of sectarian s.p.v. ation what. brings together all these elements if they are terrorist is an ideology a son of his you hope isn't well let's talk about the aspect of terrorist terrorists are often described as very religious coming from very impoverished backgrounds these young men are both well educated they have successes in athletics and by all means they have a middle class background if indeed these brothers are guilty of this crime how does this complicate the way that we view terrorists i think we have a very primitive view of terrorism who said that all terrorists are coming from the lower classes from people who are poor and what have you we saw for example that there's a very large middle class forty five medical doctors who make a lot of money probably more than you and me combined in great britain have been arrested while backing. the activities terrorist activities we see that there are donors in the gold and the every been done here rich donors there are funding that beauty and of course there are poor so it's not a question of social classes it's
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a question of who belong to this one ideology rich middle class or poor thank you for sharing your insight while the forest advisor to the antiterrorism caucus for the u.s. congress thank you for having me now i want to stop for a moment and take a look at the role that social media has played in the events that have unfolded in the fast past few days it was on social media sites like twitter that we first heard about the boston marathon bombings those were the same sites where tons of video and pictures of the aftermath began to stream in in the moments after that the bombings happened and were later picked up by the news media now since that day social media has continued to play a crucial role in disseminating information about these events or to correspondent margaret howell tells us more. we're known rattling details about the two brothers tamlyn and joe hart the only suspects in monday's boston marathon bombing that killed three people and endured more than one hundred others the older brother
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tamerlan twenty six years old was killed yesterday after a firefight with law enforcement nineteen year old your heart is still at large and considered armed and dangerous just how the social media sites like facebook and twitter clue ascend to who these suspects are well the set eyes had a heavy social media presence the younger brother dzhokhar in particular now on you tube twitter and the russian equivalent of facebook bio connect the two are posted photos of themselves and uploaded videos and posted status updates to harness that i was tweeting as recently as april sixteenth commenting on then suspects of the boston explosions and one he tweeted i'm a stress free kind of guy and the day before and they what god hates dead people are victims of tragedies l.o.l. those people are cooked. temple and posted drunk videos of himself jovially impersonating accents now tema said in one photo essay about boxing i don't have
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a single american friend and i don't understand them now that is a radical radical profits did appear on their youtube page meanwhile many facebook posts from the younger brother joe hart it seemed more typical of a nineteen year old kid for instance a list of the most important thing in his life as career and money his facebook noted he attended cambridge latin preparatory school a pretty just magnet school in boston with famous alumni like ben affleck and matt damon now he had nine friends listed this morning and last one making his social connections eight in total no girlfriend to speak of and he does list has date of birth and that he isn't married and he didn't like a quote from the koran which stated and do good indeed all loves the doers of good will. the social media accounts of tomorrow and your heart of provide some insight into both brothers and trust there's little indication from looking through them
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that they plan to commit this act of violence in washington margaret how will our see well for more on the role that social media has played in the manhunt for these two individuals i'm joined now by our two weapon who served and you're like andrew so can you start talking about the role that social media has played in finding these men how has social media actually revolutionized the way that police conduct investigations you know there's a couple of ways to look at that even as much as the way the police conduct investigations but the way the world conduct investigations when the press conference was launched by the f.b.i. thursday afternoon around five o'clock actually twenty twenty six hours ago twenty five hours ago when this happened within literally seconds everyone who had any sort of an inkling to help in any way whatsoever who also had any sort of internet connection they all went online and they were all trying to put together the pieces of this puzzle that's why i mean only five hours later we pretty much knew who these people were the suspects at least we had their names we had multiple images and this just because everyone can share information so quickly that you don't have
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to rely on all these different agencies you have to rely on the a.t.f. and f.b.i. or even the boston police department and obviously they're doing that huge part but it's not that they're outsourcing your investigation just anyone who's interested in helping whatsoever will help especially when it's something that is this powerful some something like look like terrorism. but you know so this was you know absolutely instant but because of that because it was so widespread and because it moved so quickly and there was not a lot of the information that came out so quickly was was so small and so specific that a lot of people couldn't really work with too much information so we don't have that much time left but let me ask you about exactly what you're talking about in this case was social media more helpful or hurtful i mean obviously was spreading information but at the same time it was giving away police tactics and location you know people were saying it was given to police tags location. we haven't actually seen their proven yet do law enforcement said you know let's let's make sure that people aren't aren't ruining everything but let's you know encourage them to actually go ahead and do stuff because so many people involved the kind of model
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thing to be good with people we're going ahead in jumping the gun and saying well this person did it maybe this person did it in fact just today the moderator for reddit actually had to apologize because so many people in that web site actually said ok we found the guy his name is and i'm going to screw this up as sinatra poppy and he was a missing student who disappeared from brown university two months ago he kind of looks like the suspect here must be him and this family this poor boy has been missing for two months his entire family was just devastated because top of missing their son for two months now here they have half of the internet going up knocking on their virtual front doors saying hi your son's not missing he killed everyone totally wrong you know this was totally wrong but people were engaged to to act and do something and it was a bit muddled because it was just too extreme too quickly obviously social media is revolutionizing the way that we do investigations that police do investigations that we get the word out and your blake are to where protests are with that report
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now a lot of what happened last night played out near the mit campus in boston just to repeat what happened last night gunshots were heard at the mit campus around ten twenty last night at ten thirty patrol officer sean collier was found dead in his car now these events were followed by a carjacking and a police chase during which one of the suspects was actually killed that's the older brother for more on the scene from last night and how the mit community is responding i'm joined now by greg steinbach her staff reporter for the mit attack now greg thanks for joining me first of all what did the students wake up to this morning. well i'm not sure i can really say what they woke up to i know most of the students that i've talked to were up very late or are still up but as for those of the few of them that kind of went to bed early enough that they missed the start of this. i can't even imagine we went to sleep last night on kind of a normal campus and woke up with out of one of the campus police officers and one
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of our own dead and the city turned into i don't know almost it was it feels like a war zone in lockdown you got explosions going off long rifles it's so greg spin city into that what is the current situation on your campus is it in lockdown right now. no it's not formally in lockdown i think the phrase they're using is sheltering in place which is basically please stay where you are and don't go outside please don't get hurt. and that's in effect over a number of different towns around here so are cities you've got cambridge watertown boston brookline and i think belmont all being asked you that it's shelter in place as they had to make their way across the city looking for this guy and greg do you have any indication as to why these two gentlemen were in that area though those two suspects let's go to the million dollar question no we have no
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idea. we'd love to know it specially if they were at mit deliberately we're kind of between you know residential urban cambridge and urban boston so it's entirely possible they were just passing through this seven eleven that they robbed is in a rather urban area and up the street from us and you have to it's sure his path from very over to boston goes right through our campus so this officer may have just run into him by accident wrong place wrong time and dropped everything and went downhill from there greg stein brecker saff reporter for the mit attack thank you so much for reporting that for the. well just a short time ago the mother of two boston suspects spoke with our colleagues in moscow she denies that her sons were involved here's part of that interview. grieving from my car going through here and being a mother i just do what i can say is i am pretty sure i am like
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a hundred percent sure that this has a set up. my my true fans are really innocent and i know that my. neither of them never never have talked about whatever they are saying about now and when what i want to say is my books most of them were my my youngest one was raised actually like raised from from atheist he was raised in america and my oldest son he is. a really really proper good rates and we in our house never nobody talked about the terrorism and my son tom iran really. got involved in the region. like i really do we just politics five years ago so he started following his own really really really religious aspect and he never he never told me that he he would be like on the side of jihad he was controlled by a b.
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i like for five three five feels that they knew what my son was doing so they knew what actions besides on the internet he was going to how could this happen how could they they were conjoined every step of him and their take tell telling today but it is a terrorist act medgar evers' this is not true my two sons are innocent my oldest son who used to tell me everything every think every day every take every second day my son used to call me and act me how are you mama both of them mama will love you mama how are you we meet you it's impossible impossible for them to for both of them to do such thing so i i move really really really. we repairing that be. my car you would kill me my son made what would i do to keep it secret so i would
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know who i vote would be you know knowing. anyone who would know it would be neat he would never he would never get for me he will tell me that but never ever even award i was part of an interview with the mother of the two boston suspects that she gave to artie in moscow and that's going to do it for now for more on the stories we covered go to youtube dot com slash r t america check out our website archie dot com slash usa and follow me on twitter at meghan underscore lopez see you right back here at five pm. you.
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see. the international at the very heart of moscow.
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on the road to bass for this morning the u.s. army is beginning to withdraw from iraq. in december twentieth after nine years of occupation the last american troops are finally leaving the country. every car got in it but it was the only way to get members of the iraqis anger towards the departing innovators who once dreamed of being liberators their departure resembles abandonment and escape despite the optimistic speeches. a. cease.
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april twenty twelve and i'm back in iraq and so on the border with turkey. i have an appointment this morning with the lebanese taxi. family the united states said they would make
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a democracy out of iraq in the heart of the arab world but iraq i see today is a country on the brink of chaos torn between three groups sunni's and shia's. it is a country divided a stranger to peace that i'm about to cross a taxi ride to the heart of iraqi history. from a hole in the north of travel down through l.b. little ammonia kirkuk mosul tikrit volusia baghdad babylon. and. a road map of the iraqi tragedy. of obviously i'm delighted the americans have finally left iraq as much as we're archy's a very happy not to see it here anymore enough was enough the americans occupied us so we hate them like they lean here in iraq they killed in creating the conditions
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for chaos they are responsible for the whole tragedy of them and of course we were living in peace and they came to destroy our country and us over of all of us of the. journey begins on the mountains of iraqi kurdistan. an army of two hundred thousand soldiers called peshmerga watch over this rather particular region of the country. was. my first stop is an l.b.o. the capital of iraqi kurdistan is the only region of iraq today that is seeing peace and an economic boom the miracle of being made possible by the discovery of oil on kurdish territory. from. long time dominated by baghdad and saddam hussein kurdistan dreams of achieving autonomy.
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the first customer the first passenger on our trip is a member of the new kurdish parliament that's the. biggest you know with in iraq we can say that oil has always been a curse. but today in kurdistan that's changing. foreign oil companies are coming here to work you know. the revenues are finally being used for reconstruction what negative it's a huge difference for us as in saddam's times we never benefited from the oil money or. that he had any of this that i don't know that yet he went so it's quite simple we could spend for we're iraqis and where the maoists i think they're very rapidly as soon as we have been able to create a stable basis for building a country ninety nine percent of people will vote for independence could this that
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. you know what the what the people want their own country a country called could start looking at it as that they want their own passport but there's no kurdish one i suppose you could stand. a land of trafford's kurdistan is discovering well through its oil a nightmare for baghdad which had long controlled with the resources and riches. without driver khalid we had east towards the mountains along the border with a round. driving through abandoned villages i feel like i'm visiting cemeteries. passenger ahmed is a survivor today he's on
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a pilgrimage paying tribute to the dead. hundred eighty eight during the fall a military campaign waged by saddam against the kurds my village was completely destroyed. and some of the inhabitants would be ported to southern iraq and locked up in the terrible new grass on one prison counter. many women children and men were massacred and thrown into mass graves. the kurds have always dreamed of independence saddam hussein decided to eliminate the problem once and for all. his cousin to go down in history as chemical ali was in charge of the repression. on march sixteenth one thousand nine hundred eight his helicopters dropped bombs
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loaded with toxic gas of a kurdish villages. one hundred thousand civilians were killed and three thousand villages were raised the kurds rebellion was crushed. here in the villages the peshmerga who didn't built up supply. anyone opposed to saddam could seek refuge here. so the regime began by attacking the villages. burning gassing and destroying the villages meant controlling kurdistan. lunch is like a homage to the victims on the menu adama stuffed vegetables prepared by a mets wife. a sonny like saddam hussein my brother khaled is a latino he didn't know or didn't want to know the terrible truth. look i'll show you the house where i was born here on this hill where we're a city that is like
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a memorial to the village as it was before the tragedy it was here that the villages came together every evening to talk to play backgammon and listen to the radio. i leave a comment to commemorate his loved one. we continue towards the east and kirkuk the former capital of kurdistan today on iraqi territory. so what if that god be praised i'm not scared of when the region was under american control i was afraid about it but as soon as the iraqi police and army took over things got much better if the americans didn't know the region they were afraid and trigger happy that they didn't hesitate to fire anyone who approached them like the passenger foreigner anyone. on this road has seen a lot of drama how many times did the american shoot down iraqi for no reason gotta go. through the windscreen the first iraqi checkpoint appears it's time to lower
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the camera and film or discreetly. that. the soldiers here are regularly targeted by armed groups and are also quick to shoot what to do and about the attacks and kidnappings are frequent in the area. at the moment checking our identity an itinerary takes too long hours. but at last we can hit the road again a road that is more than dangerous. to be honest no one took this road before al qaeda basically all the terrorists control the region and everyone is afraid of venturing out on this road today we feel a bit safer at getting there but it. the constant road blocks me now two hundred kilometer journey takes eight hours. niters
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fall and when i reach her coke in the sky is lit up by flast tanks the city floats on a vast sea of oil. for centuries pilgrims came here to gather around the eternal flames . the kurds would dearly love to reclaim the city the former capital of baghdad. unwilling to lose such a profitable treasure. one term to a majority of kids today is a mix of turkmen arabs kurds and christians a veritable ethnic powder keg. so i went to. this morning's planters around occurred but they're not going to kurdistan's independence he would pay with his own blood. so i would have.
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got a book. that has to become part of current standing and that it's vital we are bonded by blood it to go to them but them they can kill us and shoot at us but he won't change anything we are linked to kurdistan less than a city i mean we cannot live outside of kurdistan it would be like dying. my brother we invite you to a restaurant. i cannot let you go without inviting you i am a kurd and hospitality is a custom with us. you can continue your journey after the mail and i swear before god when i come to the restaurant with me you are welcome but get away of course. for khaled it's time to pray. for us to eat. as we enter the village a few peace men appear as an escort. i would say to watch as they say to protect us
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. and so i pay for everyone's meal as a kind of friendly tax. was. it said that kirkuk could be one of the world's richest cities it is certainly one of the most dangerous. discreet an ordinary heroin some. who is a kurd investor are opposed and fortune in the opening of a private school a generous act which has attracted m.p.'s attention i don't like. i'm terrified. if i do the day after or not that was broadcast to promote the school to physio and so i got a telephone call and i'm with you old enough to join with the know your first hobby hello about me hello you are you know a nothing a hobby that is a bonnet. a man introduced himself as a member of a terrorist organisation and demanded money for my colleagues were terrorized
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through. other like close the school for a month and then i said we have to open it again we can't just give him. michael but we have to we're still life has to go on. that. neither the terrorists nor anyone else can stop me from working as a pistol only god is the master of my destiny. well to british. market. find out what's really happening to the global economy with. no holds barred look at the global financial headlines kaiser reports.
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